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Basketball Players Needed for SpikeTV's "Pros Vs Joes"

1/6/2009 5:45PM

TUE 1/6 (5:45PM) -- This came in some time ago, but there's still time left if you are interested...
Spike TV's series "Pros Vs Joes" is currently searching for real guys to go head-to-head with professional football and basketball players. We are looking for athletes with the skill, strength, speed and agility to posterize or tackle a pro. If you know of anyone interested, have them go to http://pvjcasting.webs.com to download an application, shoot a video and get back in the game!

They should get moving, because the deadline for submissions is Friday, January 16, 2009! Competitors must be legal U.S. residents, 21 years or older, and have had no prior professional sports experience. If you have any questions, drop us a line at: pvjcasting@gmail.com. Please pass this info on to anyone you might think is interested.

Thanks,

Johnny Wickham
Associate Casting Producer- PVJ
pvjcasting@gmail.com
We're hiring! Play for free! Help wanted!

FRI 8/15/08 (10:30AM) -- Over the years, guys have asked if we have jobs available and I've told them we had nothing that would be substantial, but now we do. Basketball leagues are low-margin businesses, so we can only pay $8 per hour, which is what we pay each of our two scorekeepers per game. A comped roster slot comes out to about 11-12 games scorekept per person. If you do one or two per week, lo and behold, you are done over the course of the season!

  • EVENING SCOREKEEPING IN SF: Usually at Potrero. Our kid scorekeepers are not able to stay that late.

  • EVENING SCOREKEEPING IN OAKLAND: We are well-supported in Oakland thanks to RJ Flores, his buddies, and Tony Xiong and Yang Zhou, but sometimes we have a few games in the evening or night that they can't cover.

  • SCOREKEEPING IN SAN JOSE (ANYTIME): New gyms, new staff needed. Please note that you can scorekeep as few as the one game before or after your regular scheduled Sunday game, or more if you'd like.

  • BACKUP SCOREKEEPER FOR REDWOOD CITY: We're usually okay in RWC -- unless the main scorekeeper is unavailable, which then doesn't leave us with much.

  • STATS COMPILING: This entails taking our scoresheets, adding up the numbers, and making sure the numbers add up correctly. It does take a bit of skill and arithmetic.

  • STATS COMPILING PROCESS: I guess this is related to the above, but we kind of need someone to write a manual on how to compile our scoresheets, so I don't have to teach every RJ Flores that comes along.


  • STATS MONGER: It obviously takes awhile to compile our scoresheets, then put them up on the site. Meanwhile, we could be putting up other, quicker tidbits of info that we can glean from scoresheets and not necessarily need to add the whole thing up. Like identifying leading scorers, seeing if a team came back from a 20-point halftime deficit, noticing that someone had 7 blocked shots, that sort of thing. Vince Morales used to do this for us, but then he moved to NYC.

  • INTERVIEWER/BLOGGER: Vince Morales was doing this in the past, such as this interview with GSOM, but too much stuff was on his plate and, quite frankly, interviews do take up a bit of energy. We have some other interviews lined up, such as...

    - Thomas Fang, 6'3" Asian walk-on player at Cal
    - Matt Lee, Asian walk-on player at UCLA
    - Eddy Kleinhans, Cal game announcer
    - Chris Sabbe, Warriors statistician
    - the list goes on...

    ...Obviously, our philosophy is to interview the "common people". You can get interviews of star athletes elsewhere. We want to know what it's like to have your life revolve around other star athletes, like with the sample of individuals above.

  • CORPORATE GRANT/GIFT MATCH PROCESS/SYSTEM: We need to come up with a formalized system for soliciting grant matches. Grant matches work like this: say you write a $100 donation check to the Red Cross. If you work at a big Fortune 500 company, you can fill out a form in your company to have that $100 check matched by your company. After you fill in the form, about 3-4 months later the Red Cross gets a matching check for $100 by your company.

    It's getting kind of hard for me to fly by the seat of my pants on this. Nearly every nonprofit out there gives some sort of thank-you gift for a donation -- by law, we can give a thank-you gift that has a fair market value of less than $7.50. The only thing I can think of right now is a t-shirt, a nice t-shirt. Other than that, I don't have time to think of anything or keep track of my t-shirt inventory, and I need someone to write this all up so that more people in the league will actually want to (a) find the form to fill out from their HR dept and (b) fill out the form.

    It'd be nice to have this as a banner ad somewhere on our site, which is another task I need done (see below).

  • MARKETING OUR BEIJING TOURNAMENT: Brian Yang (NYC commish) and I will definitely be in Beijing for the 2008 Olympics. We have an agency in Beijing already, awaiting our signal for purchasing tickets (currently not available to the public) and hotel rooms. We need more help spreading the word.

  • MYSPACE/FACEBOOK GUY/GAL: The aforementioned Vince is already heading this up, but I'm not sure if he needs help or will be too inundated with stat-mongering every week. Basically, this entails linking up with our marketing initiatives (see New Orleans and Beijing above) and making sure no stone in MySpace and/or Facebook is left unturned.

  • WEBSITE STUFF: I am probably going to be hiring someone full-fledged to work with and finish up the great work that dreamleaguer Terrence August and his guru Tomoki Tsuchida started. Terry's now a math professor at UCSD and can't put any energy on this and Tomoki needs support. We are re-writing this here website in Ruby On Rails, so that would be a pre-requisite. Great for a student who wants to learn and build his portfolio. Or if you are a full-fledged ROR programmer, let's talk.

  • GOOGLE ADSENSE: This kinda goes hand-in-hand with some of the other web stuff, but I do need someone to actually focus on Google Adsense and the like. This also entails anything else that is revenue-generating on our site, including the execution of the grant match project above. Would be great to identify someone in the league who has had experience putting up ads on a blog or something.

  • SALESFORCE.COM CLEANUP: All of our registrations are run through Salesforce.com. Unfortunately we are constantly cluttered with duplicates and spam. We need someone to clean this up. Great for someone who needs to add Salesforce.com to their resume.

  • INTERTREND PROPOSAL: InterTrend is an Asian market focused ad agency. Among their clients is a major auto manufacturer (I think it's either Buick or Toyota, but I'm not sure). InterTrend recently approached us to put together a proposal on what we could deliver in terms of an Asian audience. Now, I've always felt that community leagues is a whole different beast than the usual pro league advertising model, so I'm not convinced that spending many hours on this proposal will yield dividends because, quite frankly, I'm not sure if the folks at Buick/Toyota/InterTrend "get it". But this is a huge opportunity for someone to take over this project and run with it, to really get their hands dirty with ad agencies and their clients. Al Chen of the AL-E Rayguns might be helping us with this.

  • FLEXPOWER PROPOSAL: FlexPower, a maker of sports cream currently endorsed by pro athletes such as Jason Kidd, recently approached us to figure out a way to spread the word on their products. They're kind of Ben Gay without the stink, but I'm sure that's not a description FlexPower would like me to use (although it gets the point across). Being a former venture capitalist, I have my own ideas on what they are doing wrong in FlexPower's marketing initiatives, but that's beyond the scope of what we are trying to accomplish here.

    They've offered us a revenue-sharing discount, so (a) we need to execute on that and work with whomever is in charge of revenue-generating banners on our site (see above), and (b) we need to have a plan on how to do more than that, because I think there are ideas and opportunities out there yet to be tapped that involve Dream League and FlexPower together.

  • COMMUNITY BASKETBALL MARKET STUDY FOR NIKE: That's right, Nike. Through an intermediary marketing research firm, they've asked me to come up with some estimates on the size of community basketball, starting with the Bay Area. Sure, I can do this whole thing myself, but like I said, I got a lot on my plate. There's no actual interaction with Nike on this one, but you'd definitely be helping lay the foundation on a potential new initiative by that multi-billion-dollar goddess of victory.
OCTOBER 4, 2007 (10:30AM) -- Yup, I've finally got way, way, way too much stuff on my plate. I really gotta hand this stuff off to some people. And I'm willing to pay for good service.

  • MORE STUFF AND MULTI-TASKING: There's probably more stuff I'm forgetting or haven't thought of. Also, if someone thinks they can tackle more than one project above simultaneously, don't hesitate to tell me.I think these are some quite unique high-value projects here for people within the Dream League community to tackle and even earn a wage on.

    Please be aware, though, that my management style goes like this, in case you hadn't noticed from our team/player registration process. I move along at pretty constant speed. If after a few weeks you don't have any deliverables, I will assume that you missed the bus and it will become a project not completed again, available for someone else to grab.

    There's a lot of responsibility that comes with each job above. Each person is expected to sign an employment contract. Per IRS rules, if you earn $600 or more, you will receive a MISC-1099 form from us next January.

    Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.

    Searching for Basketball Players, Runners, & Triathletes for Paid Photo Shoot

    OCTOBER 25, 2007 (3:00PM) -- We just got this in from a casting agency. Please let us know if you're interested and we'll put you in touch...
    "PAID PRINT PHOTO SHOOT ($500 & $750). The client is a well-known sportswear company (name to be announced once final talent are selected).

    We need athletic people who are TRIATHLETES, RUNNERS, & BASKETBALL PLAYERS between the AGES of 19-29 with specific sizes. These sizes are:

    MEN with a Large shirt size, 6' - 6'3", & 170-195 lbs.
    WOMEN with a Medium shirt size, 5'7" - 5'11", & 125-135 lbs.

    SHOOT INFORMATION
    This particular photo shoot will take place in the Bay Area! You will need to make yourselves available for one of the following dates - November 9,10, & 11 (Friday-Sunday). The shoot will only be one of these dates.

    Each shoot date will consist of a day-long physical activity. There will be a gym shot, running shot, and a basketball shot. Talent should be comfortable running/exercising throughout the day (with frequent rest breaks & an attentive crew, of course!)
    IF chosen for the shoot, you will be paid $500 (half day) or $750 (full day)

    TOTAL AMOUNT TO BE PAID PER PERSON - $500 or $750

    CASTING SESSION DATE (Times to be Announced)
    Monday / October 29th
    Tuesday / October 30th

    LOCATION
    The address will be given out if we contact you for an appointment.

    SHOOT DATE
    You will need to be available on November 9, 10, or 11, if you are selected for the photo shoot.

    SHOOT LOCATION
    Bay Area"



    Pre-Season Kickoff Party at Tabu Lounge - 9/15/07
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    WHAT: Party
    WHY: For the helluvit, chance to thank those of you who have been dreamleague supporters
    WHO: Big thank you to Yukhong Lum, party promoter (more details on his gig soon)
    WHERE: TABU LOUNGE, 520 4th Street, San Francisco, CA 94107
    WHEN: Sat Sep 15, 9pm to whenever they close
    COST: FREE BEFORE 10:30PM!!!

    Add yourself to the guestlist here...

    http://www.evite.com/app/publicUrl/zodiacsf@gmail.com/dream


    Flyer will be posted here shortly. Oh, while we're at it (and because there are certain limitations with this website's database and stuff), why don't you read below about telling us your team's tipoff times for the upcoming league...

    Being proactive about tipoff timeframes

    Last update 5/8/2007

    Perhaps it's not immediately evident, but there's a lot you can do to not only get the tipoff timeframe you want, but be able to better predict what time your game will be this upcoming Sunday, if you can't wait until the usual Thursday morning.

    This goes for those of you who are making special requests, too. Before asking the commish if a certain tipoff timeframe is possible, why don't you first get a hint of what's possible by going to your division's Season Preview page (usually the first article located in your league's homepage's "Articles from this season" box on the right-hand side, or the Rumor Mill list or wherever that list of original team registrations and preferred tipoff times is located) -- then going to the Season Schedule/Matchups page to see who you're playing and simply checking...
    • What your opponent's requested tipoff timeframe is.
    It's that simple! If you're looking for a 5pm game this Sunday and your opponent's tipoff timeframe is 9am-3pm, then right off the bat you know you're out of luck. At that point you can still email the commish, but please save him a step or two and just ask for your opponent's captain's phone number so you can beg them for some kind of compromise.

    If you're not necessarily making a special request, but just wondering what time your tipoff might be, you'll get a sense by taking the cross-section of your team's tipoff timeframe with that of your opponent's. Sometimes they are on opposite ends of the day. In those unusual circumstances, you can pretty much pinpoint the narrow few hours in which your tipoff timeframes overlap.

    Now, back to the topic of schedules going up by Thursday morning

    I've been asked many times why we do this. It's mainly because of (1) gym directors who pull the rug from under me, (2) teams that always are asking for this or that because they forgot they had a tournament, etc., and (3) the fact I have to run all these games in succession due to the sucky business model of running leagues.

    He who holds the keys to the gym is king

    With gyms, it's a reflection of the greater community out there. The greater community out there is filled with people who don't have proper Fortune 500 business training and hence tend to do things last-minute, with a tinge of irresponsibility and little control over their calendars.

    Unfortunately, I have found that this is simply the nature of the beast. The majority of gym directors don't tell me until the last minute (thankfully, they have enough decency to tell me usually by Wednesday) about some other, more powerful and rich group -- usually some AAU or NJB youth organization -- that has rented the gym for a big tournament this very weekend, probably at a higher rate than we as dreamleaguers can bear.

    Generation Y or whatever you wanna call it

    Funny how this sounds exactly like your flaky teammates who don't tell you, the captain, that they can't make it this weekend until 2 days before! See, I told you. Majority rules. That's the way people are these days. Short attention spans, Generation Y, or whatever you want to call it. Face the facts. This, by the way, covers my second point from above.

    So anyways if I had done all the work to set a season schedule, then if #1 or #2 happens, I've wasted the time I spent doing that. I might as well set the schedule with the fewest variables in play. That's why I usually don't even bother starting the schedule until Tuesday or Wednesday of each week. Besides, that gives me Monday to look over the stats and make sure our narrow-skillset teenage crew doesn't screw them up when they input them onto the website.

    Nevertheless, I'm trying to set the schedule as much as I can and hold people to it, although with gym directors (and scorekeepers), that's a huge risk.

    Basketball leagues: a sucky business model

    Also, to hit on the third and last point, if it were more economical I'd just setup each league in a certain timeframe. A bunch of 8-team leagues all set, like multiple city or community leagues you see out there.

    Unfortunately, that doesn't yield me the most teams. And unfortunately, I'm in a pinch and need to accept as many teams as possible, thereby complicating it all. It is actually financially better for dreamleague if a 16-team AL-P league (which is also more fun) falls in my lap instead of separate city league-like 8-team leagues here and there run by different quasi-commishes.

    dreamleague: trying to get as close to the NBA as we possibly can

    From your standpoint, in a vanilla 8-team city league, you actually don't get the closeness of competitive levels that we have right now. You don't get the NBA feel of a 16- or 27-team league. It's just not possible unless you comingle everything over several seasons and years of experience.

    So it helps me and it helps you too in terms of the dynamic of the league you play in.

    dreamleague: not necessarily for Al Bundys

    There's good and bad in that. That's why typically the older, married with children crowd has a tougher time adjusting to the dreamleague scheduling paradigm than those of you who are in college and just wanna ball. We have certainly lost a team here or there because of that. Unfortunately the Al Bundys are in the minority.

    All that being said, imposing a 6-hour timeframe ain't all that bad. If you think about it, a weeknight league is going to impose a 4-hour timeframe on you, and that's for a weeknight (e.g., 6pm, 7pm, 8pm or 9pm tipoffs). For a weekend, 6 hours is merely tacking on an extra before and after.

    The other curveball is the limited availability of gyms. We're pretty much stuck with stacking game after game wall-to-wall in any gym we can get our hands on.

    Then you go back to the competitive aspect.

    We've already thought about this long and hard

    So we've taken all of this into consideration and have made a conscious decision that with all the variables in play, we're better off just publishing the schedule every Thursday, with each team doing what it can to have an educated guess as to what time your tipoff is.

    Unless I can figure out how to improve upon this, or if there's a sudden wave of gym availability to hedge against today's scarcity, or I can spread this responsibility across several people who are as dedicated as myself to furthering the dreamleague cause, I'll probably take this to my grave.

    This method of scheduling will last in dreamleague Bay Area as long as I am able to keep running it.

    Hmm, that's actually not too different from any other league out there.

    Still the only place else where it's also Fan-tastic

    So look on the bright side: cool teams to play against, most likely at your level of play, double-elimination playoffs, guys who are working their butts off to get those stats up even though they might not be up yet, refs that get what dreamleague is all about, and that awesome NBA format.

    Here's hoping that advancing the ball to halfcourt after a timeout with 0.3 seconds left -- enough to catch-and-shoot according to the NBA -- supercedes everything, haha!-->



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